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Are all docs geniuses? [Jan. 3rd, 2010|10:10 pm]
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[farahnq]
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 Hi guys,

I'm doing my A Levels (PreMed) studies in Malaysia, currently in my first half of the semester.

This would sound totally stupid/random,god forgive me, but going through some med forums, I realize that I constantly meet doctors who said they excelled in high school (top of the class, chem/biology genius,and the list goes on...), and not a single one of them sounds like a normal person (normal as in, above average) .

I'm still a bit shaken (cuz I'm still in my experimenting stage), my question is; 

Can a dedicated and passionate average joe become a doctor? It seems like a lot of med students I hear have top score results, best in their class, won science fairs, etc.... I know how competitive med school is (we're constantly reminded by our lecturers everyday *sigh*), and it sounds intimidating, so I wonder if its too late to dream about entering medicine when my results are mediocre to good enough, but not great. =I

And, do you know any med student/doctor who's considered to have a typically 'normal' college/high school? 


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[User Picture]From: slim_ivory_rose
2010-01-03 02:28 pm (UTC)
of course they can. Remember people aren't themselves on internet forums! Seriously its not all about science. Gifted academics might not necessarily be able to look a patient in the eye.


A levels! Are you coming to the UK to med school? good luck!
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[User Picture]From: farahnq
2010-01-04 01:01 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I second that :)

Yup, there's a high possibility of hunting for some med schools in there. Are you from the UK? O.o And thx!
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[User Picture]From: plungerdna
2010-01-03 06:20 pm (UTC)
I think there's a lot of pathology with people who post those stats online. Its more just bragging than anything else. Yes, you do need good grades and good test scores, but you also need the whole package on being dedicated, hardworking, and having the right personality.

I speak more from the US, but grades in college are FAR more important than anything in high school...and even college grades do not matter if you have followed a more non-traditional path and do a post-bac after a completely different career.
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[User Picture]From: farahnq
2010-01-04 01:06 pm (UTC)
Hahah, I thought they had the right to brag XP but you're right.

There are people that are in their mid 30's and are med students. I can't imagine how their process were like =o
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[User Picture]From: sablessam
2010-01-04 02:38 am (UTC)
From my faculty point of view: the students that "brag" about all their great scores and outstanding achievements are the ones that are struggling to make it in med school. As was stated above, it is much more important that you are passionate about your goals, are willing to work hard to meet those goals and (in my mind) have the ability to take care of your people - not just the "broken arm in room 6" but the 10 year old that is scared, in pain and dealing with his mom at the same time. Good luck with your studies and hang in there!
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[User Picture]From: jerseyjess
2010-01-04 04:01 am (UTC)
Oh geez, I spent most of high school sleeping and complaining about how stressed I was. I spent so much time on those 2 activities that I didn't have too much time to study. So I graduated in the top half or so, went to college, and graduated college with a 3.1 or something like that. I'm pretty sure I didn't break 3.0 in the sciences (dunno what the system is like over by you but 3.0=straight B's). I took the mcat twice.

BUT...i made it to med school (on the first try) and i'm doing significantly better at med school than I did at high school or college. (I'm in my last year) I don't know if I get the material more now or if I"m more interested than I was before so it's going better for me, but I'm actually not bad at med school. So my point is, even if you're not good at high school/college, it's totally possible to go to med school and even do above average there.

Good luck!
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[User Picture]From: indy_md
2010-01-04 04:16 am (UTC)
i'm not the OP but i needed to hear this. thank you.
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[User Picture]From: jerseyjess
2010-01-04 04:22 am (UTC)
Glad to be of service :-)
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[User Picture]From: farahnq
2010-01-04 01:16 pm (UTC)
Yay,you made my day :D (not implying anything negative) but, we're almost similar in terms of college.

I was pulling my hair about this,its a relief to hear that it is possible. I hope you're doing well there :)

And thx!
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[User Picture]From: joint_pains
2010-01-04 02:03 pm (UTC)
Bit of background first: I'm Malaysian, currently working as a 3rd year HMO in Aus. Did high school in Malaysia, then foundation year in Melbourne.

To answer your question...well, I'll try and put it delicately:

WAHAHAHAA!Shethinksthatalldoctorsaregeniuses!ohthatcracksmeupsoooobad,ifonlysheknewwhatwewerereallylikeWAHAHAHAHAH!ROTFL! ;P

But seriously, if I remember correctly, 7 people from my F5 class went on to med school and all have graduated as docs. Granted, 3 out of the seven were at the head of the class, but the other 4 were spread throughout.

There're enough facets to being a 'good doctor' that not being an uber-science-whiz won't hold you back terribly much at all.

And bear(sp?) in mind, if someone was willing to talk(read: brag) about how great they were, they probably weren't all *that* flash...
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[User Picture]From: araispoetry
2010-01-04 03:33 pm (UTC)
Yes, yes you can. I don't even have the required A-level grades to get to med school in the UK! They want AAB, I have AAC. It took me two attempts to get into med school, but I'm here now!

Be clever with where you apply. The place I got into is one that likes to be multi-cultural, and open to people from all backgrounds- I doubt I would have had the same chance with a college that doesn't hold those values quite so highly.

However you are applying against many other people, so you need SOMETHING to make you stand out. It may be that you got good grades at a bad school. It may be that you got excellent grades at a good school. Don't forget things like volunteering work- where you can show your dedication and enthusiasm by putting a lot of time into helping others, and it doesn't matter what grades you have! :-)
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[User Picture]From: rayiroth
2010-10-31 11:24 am (UTC)
About a year late to reply, but I'm going to say this.

The expectation for me in high school was "stop eating glue", combined with "why haven't you dropped out yet"? I was in the dumb class as I hardly spoke English, and out of my class of 33 people, 3 made into the final year of high school.

Yup, we were expected to fail.

In my final year of high school, I failed one out of five subjects (Practical art), as a result I got a B entrance to university. During my university years I was absolutely convinced that I was the dumbest person ever walked into the building.

I still have bouts of inferior complex now and again, though I'm also open to the possibility that maybe, just maybe I'm a bit too hard on myself. Having said that, "excelled at high school"? AHAHAHAHAHAHsploshAHAHAHAHA
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